Board logo

标题: 请大家帮助鉴定和分析此票真伪及背景,谢谢 [打印本页]

作者: 名驹拙成    时间: 2013-1-25 10:36     标题: 请大家帮助鉴定和分析此票真伪及背景,谢谢

11.jpg
请教这枚邮票的真伪,汕(一)机戳邮资,临时邮票,及市场参考价格,这票我个人对此有个疑问,此票停售时间是1950年1月25日,而这枚票销1950年1月28日,但这不是一个个例,在中国解放区邮票目录中编号JZN-44汕头“国内邮资已付”临时邮票记载3.a图片也就是500元面值票,销时间1950年1月27日,此票停售之后为何还有使用?这是个疑问,恳请大家帮忙分析及估价,谢谢!

图片附件: 11.jpg (2013-1-25 10:34, 42.51 KB) / 下载次数 15
http://p1878.com/BBS/attachment.php?aid=664945&k=4cbb48da7b4d81dfb5a1354100b2a21a&t=1732573757&sid=8R70R5


作者: 名驹拙成    时间: 2013-1-25 10:41

a.jpg
这个销时间是1950年1月20日,个人辨别与上一机戳邮资属同一机盖出

图片附件: a.jpg (2013-1-25 10:39, 42.43 KB) / 下载次数 17
http://p1878.com/BBS/attachment.php?aid=664946&k=ad2ac8f6a9ed81d925ab4e0c32149078&t=1732573757&sid=8R70R5


作者: 麦国培    时间: 2013-1-25 11:01

真家伙
广东区票
作者: 迷邮斋主    时间: 2013-1-25 11:09

真东西,停售不停用
作者: 爱邮客    时间: 2013-1-25 16:53

心上欣赏
作者: davidfu    时间: 2013-1-26 01:03

啊呀,原来是您拿下了啊。我当时就纳闷了。羡慕啊
作者: 名驹拙成    时间: 2013-1-26 08:16

回复 6# davidfu

符兄,我是黑龙江的,买家是上海的哦
作者: 名驹拙成    时间: 2013-1-26 08:18

我只是没见过,所以提出来大家研究一下,东西很少见。
http://www.zhaoonline.com/jiefangquyoupiao/1946527.shtml(买家是上海人)
作者: Hsinyen    时间: 2013-1-26 10:39

Any comments here? How many different denominations existing? Does anybody have a complete list?


作者: 麦国培    时间: 2013-1-26 11:05

Any comments here? How many different denominations existing? Does anybody have a complete list?
Hsinyen 发表于 2013-1-26 10:39



    这个不是固定的面值!
作者: 周升渊1    时间: 2013-1-26 11:49

东西绝对是真的,而且不多见的。价格可以自由想像。
作者: 名驹拙成    时间: 2013-1-26 13:49

本帖最后由 名驹拙成 于 2013-1-26 13:51 编辑

回复 9# Hsinyen

全套共有七种面值,下附图请看
   A full set of a total of seven denominations, please look under the



图片附件: 1.jpg (2013-1-26 13:49, 58.79 KB) / 下载次数 18
http://p1878.com/BBS/attachment.php?aid=665382&k=45b3b7418bdc0ecd8653010976a63aa8&t=1732573757&sid=8R70R5



图片附件: 2.jpg (2013-1-26 13:50, 40.93 KB) / 下载次数 17
http://p1878.com/BBS/attachment.php?aid=665383&k=c8c16604b75f78ad63d968b34f6967d4&t=1732573757&sid=8R70R5


作者: Hsinyen    时间: 2013-1-26 23:17

回复 12# 名驹拙成

Thank you! Besides must be exits an unknown amount of NOT listed denominations.

Does someone know the postage rate table at these days? Maybe is possible to figure out which kind of denominations are possible and which are only made for philatelists?

谢谢!除了要退出一个未知量未上市的面值。

是否有人知道在这些天的邮资费率表?也许是种面额是可能的,这可能只是为集邮爱好者吗?
作者: 名驹拙成    时间: 2013-1-27 11:51

回复 13# Hsinyen


   3600元面值也是真的,但不属于解放区票,属于新中国邮票,我查阅了一些资料,从1950年开始,全国各地陆续启用从中华邮政接收的邮资机。邮资机符志初期以原有设计为基础,有的未作改动,有的保留鸿雁图,将铭记改为“人民邮政”或“中国人民邮政”;有的取消鸿雁图,将铭记改为“中国人民邮政”。面值有800元、1600元、3600元、6700元,10000元、50000元等。已应对邮资上涨,目前拍卖成交的最大面值是5万元的,但这些邮票不属于区票,属于中国人民邮政邮票。解放区邮票面值只有七种,即200元、300元、500元、1000元、1200元、2000元、2400元,这个有公文,广东省人民邮政管理局于1950年4月21日向邮电部邮政总局转报汕头邮政局的报告,说明了汕头“国内邮资已付”机器加印临时邮票的种类七种,发行时间1949年11月26日和“现已无存”。
The face value of 3600 yuan is also true, but does not belong to Jiefang District ticket, belongs to the new Chinese stamps, I looked up some information, from the beginning of 1950, all over the country have enabled from the postal receives franking machine. Franking machine mark in the early stage of the original design as the basis, some have not changed, some retained Hongyan figure, will be remembered as " the people's postal " or " Chinese people's post "; some cancel Hongyan, will remember to " Chinese people's post ". With a face value of 800 yuan, 1600 yuan, 3600 yuan, 6700 yuan, 10000 yuan, 50000 yuan. To cope with the maximum amount of postage hikes, auction turnover of 50000 yuan, but these stamps does not belong to the area of the ticket, belongs to the Chinese people's postal stamps. Only seven of Jiefang District stamps, that is 200 yuan, 300 yuan, 500 yuan, 1000 yuan, 1200 yuan, 2000 yuan, 2400 yuan, this document, Guangdong Provincial People's postal administration in 1950 April 21 to the Ministry of post and Telecommunications Postal Bureau reported to the Shantou Post Bureau report, " Shantou domestic postage paid " machine provisional stamps printed seven explained, " released in November 26, 1949 and has been no deposit ".
作者: Hsinyen    时间: 2013-1-28 22:50

回复 14# 名驹拙成


Very interesting!! Thank you very much for your value information.

In short, this meter stamp (ticket) does not belongs to Liberated Area, it should be list in the unified catalogue!






欢迎光临 华邮网 (http://p1878.com/BBS/) Powered by Discuz! 7.2