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作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-20 23:36 标题: Unknown Label

Hello Everybody,
can anybody tell me something about this label?

Thanks!

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作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-21 00:25

Receipts of service charge
The red one is the receipt of service charge of Post &Telecommunications.
The black one is of Telecommunications.
they are not Postal Local Surcharge Labels.

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-21 00:59

Thanks!!

How about this one? The cancel shoes a post code 385000.

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作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-21 11:29

本帖最后由胡亚非于 2014-1-21 15:41 编辑

The post code 385000 doesn't exist.Please check it to see if you make a mistake. Perhaps it's 335000 or other numbers.

作者: 王童力 时间: 2014-1-21 12:18

哇，就看懂个335000

，看来得恶补洋文啦，不然真不好在本网混呐

作者: 蓝蓝蓝梦 时间: 2014-1-21 12:45

哇，就看懂个335000，看来得恶补洋文啦，不然真不好在本网混呐
王童力发表于 2014-1-21 12:18

呵呵……这个你也没看懂，是385000

我就看清楚了这个数字，其他的

作者: 王童力 时间: 2014-1-21 12:53

回复 6# 蓝蓝蓝梦

BEI CUILE LIAN SHUZI DOU BURENSHI LE ...AI SHIBAI ZHENSHIBAI!

作者: 蓝蓝蓝梦 时间: 2014-1-21 12:59

回复蓝蓝蓝梦

BEI CUILE LIAN SHUZI DOU BURENSHI LE ...AI SHIBAI ZHENSHIBAI!
王童力发表于 2014-1-21 12:53

呀？？？！！！！转眼间就成高手了，我连一个单词都看不懂……神啊。

作者: 蓝蓝蓝梦 时间: 2014-1-21 13:00

回复蓝蓝蓝梦

BEI CUILE LIAN SHUZI DOU BURENSHI LE ...AI SHIBAI ZHENSHIBAI!
王童力发表于 2014-1-21 12:53

呀！！！！！！！我上当了，是汉语拼音。

作者: 蓝蓝蓝梦 时间: 2014-1-21 13:01

ZHENSHIBAI!

作者: 王童力 时间: 2014-1-21 13:10

Very shibai , you and me!

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-21 15:43

不好意思,前面写错了一个字.doesn't[不]--错成了does[确实是].意思就全反了.已改.

作者: 昆山 时间: 2014-1-21 20:41

都是高手

路过

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-22 07:25

回复 4# 胡亚非

Yeah ... sorry, my eyesight ... it's 038500

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作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-22 12:08

That's right ,Shanxi Province,Suzhou City.[山西朔州]

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-22 18:42

Thanks! So this is Postal Local Surcharge Label? Do you have any further information about this label?

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-22 21:17

Yes,it's formal Postal Local Surcharge Label,but it was only used in Suzhou City, Shanxi Province.[山西朔州],and only used as receipt.That is to say ,it was given to the sender, not stuck to the cover.

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-23 01:11

Great ... thank you very much to help me out here!
I hope I don't ask too much questions ... can you please tell me if they are ACLs?

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作者: 六格快件 时间: 2014-1-23 10:15

我以为是胡教授在上课

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-23 15:35

No thanks.you are welcome!Very glad to communicate with you about Postal Local Surcharge Label.
The labels above are not of Postal Surcharge ,but of Postal Service charge.There's one standard to differ from Postal Surcharge and Postal Service charge: Is there any additional service provided ?When you are asked to pay Postal Surcharge,you are not expected to get any additional service.

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-23 16:58

Again I'm glad to see your reply! You help me a lot to move on with my Postal Local Surcharge collection.

For what kind of "Postal Service charge" these labels were used for? What kind of service? Is there anything known?

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-24 16:45

Does some one knew this labels?

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作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-24 21:10

sorry to answer your questions late.I'm on my vocation with my family in my home town.Chinese Spring Festival.

Two labels above are of typical Postal Service charge.
The one with red numbers has some words on it :Used for specific charge of mail-delivery in countryside,suburbs or tall buildings in cities .
Another one :Service charge of delivering longer distance telegram

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-24 21:18

Postal Local Surcharge is similar to adding postage to same mail service,but not adding any more other service.

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-24 21:27

Thank you very much and please enjoy your vacation!

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-30 11:52

本帖最后由胡亚非于 2014-1-30 11:54 编辑

Hellow,Hsinyen .I've been back,my parents coming with us to enjoy the Spring Festival.
Are you an overseas Chinese?Do you also have Spring Festival?
Let's go on talking Postal Surcharge.

作者: 曾雷 时间: 2014-1-30 12:17

看来没法在本网混了

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-31 18:10

Hellow,Hsinyen .I've been back,my parents coming with us to enjoy the Spring Festival.
Are you an o ...
胡亚非发表于 2014-1-30 11:52

HI!
Hope you had enjoyed your Spring Festival.

Maybe is a surprise for you, but I'm a German, I collect China Liberated Area and ACLs. In our company our Chinese staff made yesterday a nice party, everybody cooked some dishes at home and bring to work. Later thier families joined, it was a very nice evening!

May I ask if you know, if there are some better local ACL catalogs exist for the following provinces: Fujian, Shanxi , Mongolia?

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-1-31 20:27

Nice to know that!
There are not catalogues exist for Fujian and Shanxi yet.For Mongolia,there were several editions for the same catalogue finished by an old philatelist who died nine years ago.They were not published formally ,but printed privately and presented only to some friends.

Do you know Mr.Ouyang Chengqin,an old philatelist in Wuhan City,Hubei Province who has been working on postal surcharges for over 20 years and often introduces them to foreigners by writing English articles ?

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-1-31 21:51

Yes, the catalog of Mr. Ouyang Chengqin is quite popular (even here in Germany)!

I wonder if you have a list of issued ACLs for Fujian and Shanxi or how you collect them? You have some ACLs from these area?

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-1 17:47

I merely have a little ACLs from Fujian and Shanxi ,and I can show you some of them here several days later. I don't know much about issued ACLs for Fujian and Shanxi ,but I can ask someone who is good at them to introduce for you.I think he would be glad to do that.I will help him translate what he says into English.Please wait a few days .
By the way,I guess ACLs means Addictional Charge Labels.Is that right?

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作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-1 18:03

Would you please tell me if your full name is Roman Scheibert?

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-2-1 18:49

Yes, that's right, we use in "ACL"s for "Additional Charge Label"s

Thank you for your help! We here in Germany are a small group of collectors for ACLs, around 5-6 people I knew personally.

That's correct, "Hsinyen" is my friend who helps me to register here in this forum. Wasn't maybe so wise that she used her name as my nick-name but anyway, that's the background for my nick-name! :-)

作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-4 11:55

欢迎来自德国的 Hsinyen 先生！
应胡亚非老师之约，解答你的提问如下。

【山西省】

『第一期』
1.河津市：

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-4 12:01

2.万荣县：同河津市，都是采用汽车票式的附加费凭证，只是票幅稍小。

3.稷山县：

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-4 12:08

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『第二期』
1.朔州市：

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-4 12:16

上面发错图片，不懂编辑，说明一下：
第1.图是山阴市，不是朔州的。
第2.图是朔州市.
第3.图山阴的重复了，删掉。

作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-4 12:19

3.孝义县：

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-4 12:22

4.离石市：

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-4 12:27

本帖最后由林绍之于 2014-2-4 12:29 编辑

5.左云县
6.太谷县
这两个县是印制油印凭证，由持有者胡亚非先生提供凭证样。

（山西省使用了上述凭证，若有遗漏请予补充）

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-4 16:02

本帖最后由胡亚非于 2014-2-4 16:16 编辑

The 34th Floor:
Welcome Mr.Hsinyen [MR.Roman Scheibert]from Germany.MR.Hu[MR.胡亚非,also called Samuel Hu] asked me to answer your questions as below:

【山西省】Shanxi Province
『第一期』The First Stage------1988---1990.7.30
1.河津市：Hejin City

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-4 16:16

The 35th Floor:
2.万荣县:Wanrong County.The label ia like that of Hejin City,as in The 35th Floor,but the size of it is smaller than the latter.The style of both of them is similar to bus tickets.

3.稷山县:Jishan County:The pink -color label

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-4 16:42

36th and 37th floor:
『第二期』--The second Stage From 1992.12.1 on
1.朔州市：Suzhou City----the second picture in 36th floor
2山阴市:Shanyin City ---the third picture in 36th floor
The first picture is the same as the third one,so it is surplus.[ Mr.林绍之 explained in 37th floor.He can't cancel the unnecessary picture]

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-4 18:01

The 38th floor
3.孝义县： Xiaoyi County

The 39th floor
4.离石市：Lishi City

作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-4 18:50

本帖最后由林绍之于 2014-2-4 18:51 编辑

补遗：
第二期阶段，河津市和万荣县也使用附加费凭证，也就是将一期印制的凭证各自继续沿用(见34楼图）。

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-4 20:17

The 40th floor

5.左云县-----Zuoyun County
6.太谷县----Taigu County
这两个县是印制油印凭证，由持有者胡亚非先生提供凭证样-------Thess two counties used mimeo labels.The pictures will be showed by MR.Hu[MR.胡亚非 ]
（山西省使用了上述凭证，若有遗漏请予补充） ------Shanxi Province had used these labels above.Please give additional information if there are any Omissions

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-4 20:29

The 45th floor
补遗：---Supplement
第二期阶段，河津市和万荣县也使用附加费凭证，也就是将一期印制的凭证各自继续沿用(见34楼图）------
At the Second Stage ,Hejin City and Wanrong County continued to use their original labels that were used in the First Stage .the pictures are as in the 34th Floor and the 35th Floor

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-4 20:48

Information and materials above are provided specially for MR.Roman Scheibert by Mr.林绍之[Mr.Lin shaozhi],one of the masters of Acls philately,who lives in Shanghai City and has been Committed to Acls collection and study for over 20 years.--------以上信息和资料由林绍之先生特意为MR.Roman Scheibert提供。林先生现居上海，20多年来致力于附加费的收集与研究，是附加费集邮的大师级人物。

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-4 20:54

Zuoyun County :Mimeo-printed label

Taigu County :Mimeo-printed labe
l 山西太谷县油印凭证包单---背面.jpg

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 10:28

【福建省】

『一期』

全省只有南平地区的松溪县印制使用附加费凭证，白纸红字一种。

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 10:31

『二期』

1.省统印红凭：

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 10:39

2.省统印红凭的错排凭证：某凭证位的收据名中，“地方”排成“方地”.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 10:47

3.省统印黒凭

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:04

4.省统印印刷品凭证之一：收据联白纸红字（存根联黄纸红字）

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:06

5.省统印印刷品凭证之二：收据联白纸黑字.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:12

6.松溪县二期继续使用一期印制的凭证，挂函附加费标准从1角提高到2角.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:15

7.建阳县凭证：有壹角、贰角两种.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:17

8.建阳县汇款单：贴壹角附凭.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:19

9.建瓯县：全联凭证.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:21

建瓯县挂函及附凭的收据.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:23

10.建瓯县印刷品附加费收据.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:28

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11.建宁县附加费凭证：白纸红字，面额壹角。寄挂函时，邮局给寄信人2枚收据.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:32

建宁县国际特快专递收据：手写改值后交寄件人.

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作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-5 11:43

12.永安市自印凭证。

福建省印制使用的附加费凭证介绍完毕，若有遗漏请予补充。

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作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-5 21:10

The 50th floor by Mr.Lin[林绍之 ]:
【福建省】---Fujian Province
『一期』---The First Stage
Shenxi County of Lanping District used the label of white paper with red color

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-5 21:29

The 57th and 58th floor:

A set of labels of two with different par values of one Jiao and two Jiao, in Jianyang County.

The picture on 58th floor:
Money order with the label pasted on.

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-5 21:37

The 51th floor
The second Stage:
1.省统印红凭：--1.Red label uniform-printed in the province

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-5 21:48

The 52th floor

2.省统印红凭的错排凭证：某凭证位的收据名中，“地方”排成“方地”.
--2. Uniform-printed red label of the province with wrong words:，“地方”is in a reverse order as to“方地”.

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-5 21:52

The 53th floor
3.省统印黒凭------------3.Black label uniform-printed in the province

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-5 22:02

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The 54th floor
4.省统印印刷品凭证之一：收据联白纸红字（存根联黄纸红字）---
4.One kind of Printed matter label uniform-printed of the province:The eceipt copy is whit paper with red words,and the stub copy is yellow paper with red words

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-5 22:05

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The 55th floor
5.省统印印刷品凭证之二：收据联白纸黑字.--
5.Another kind of Printed matter label uniform-printed in the province:The eceipt copy is whit paper with black words

The 56th floor
6.松溪县二期继续使用一期印制的凭证，挂函附加费标准从1角提高到2角.
6.In the Second Stage,Shenxi County continued to use labels printed in the First Stage.The surcharge rate of registered matters rised from one Jiao to two Jiao.

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-5 22:23

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[Port 7and 8 on 57th and 58th floor belong to the First Stage,so I put them on the 66th floor ]

The 59th floor
9.建瓯县：全联凭证.
9.Jianou County: The complete label with receipt copy and stub copy
The 60th floor
建瓯县挂函及附凭的收据.----Registered matter from Jianou County with receipt copy of ACL

The 61th floor
10.建瓯县印刷品附加费收据.--------receipt copy of printed matter surcharge label of Jianou County

The 62th floor
11.建宁县附加费凭证：白纸红字，面额壹角。寄挂函时，邮局给寄信人2枚收据.--Jianning County ACL:white paper with red words and par value One Jiao.The postoffice gave the sender two receipts for each registered letter. [It means two Jiao surcharge rate]

The 63th floor
建宁县国际特快专递收据：手写改值后交寄件人.Surcharge receipt of international EMS of Jianning County .It was givened to the sender after the par value was changed by handwriting.

The 64th floor
12.永安市自印凭证。---The ACLs only printed and used in Yongan City.
福建省印制使用的附加费凭证介绍完毕，若有遗漏请予补充。That's all of the introduction of ACls of Fujian Province.Please add more information if there are any omissions

作者: Hsinyen 时间: 2014-2-7 18:02

Dear All,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Your information are very helpful for me. It's a pleasure to met such ACLs experts!

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-7 20:48

MR.Roman Scheibert:MR.lin shaozhi knows something about your ACLs collection from MR.ouyang.Here I will translate what you say on 73th floor into Chinese for MR MR.lin .

这里我把73楼MR.Scheibert所说的给林先生翻译一下：
亲爱的各位邮友，非常感谢你们！你们提供的信息对我非常有帮助。非常高兴能遇到这样一些附加费专家

作者: 胡亚非 时间: 2014-2-7 21:02

本帖最后由胡亚非于 2014-2-13 01:38 编辑

Dear MR.Roman Scheibert
Would you please provide more information about your ACLs collection? We are interested in knowing them .Here I list some question as below:
1.When and how do you start your collection of ACLs?
2.Do you only collect new ACLs of China or mail matters with ACLs on ?

作者: 林绍之 时间: 2014-2-9 12:07

谢谢胡教授翻译。
附加费邮品没有国界，地球人都可以玩，只要有兴趣。
沧海桑田二十余载，附加费邮品中一些珍罕品种的分布状况已相对固定了，不可能多数人拥有，像上述的一期山西凭证附品只是个别人收集保存着，但这不影响大多数附加费爱好者的收集和研究，大家都有各自的目标，都在努力，过程是最主要的。老外在信息掌握和收集渠道方面都受限制，我们愿意提供力所能及的帮助。

作者: 丰根 时间: 2014-3-2 16:09

虽然看不懂，但是挺有意思，老外关注附加费集邮也不是偶然的，象林老所说附加费邮品没有国界，地球人都可以玩！

作者: 阳光波 时间: 2014-3-5 22:45

好现象！但愿外国玩附加费的朋友多来几个要此网相互交流！

作者: parisiica 时间: 2014-3-5 23:12

谢谢胡教授翻译。
附加费邮品没有国界，地球人都可以玩，只要有兴趣。
沧海桑田二十余载，附加费邮品中一 ...
林绍之发表于 2014-2-9 12:07

附加费邮品没有国界

，外星人也可以玩，只要有兴趣

。

作者: wangcm 时间: 2014-10-12 16:27

回复 40# 林绍之

这个列表是否只包括预印凭证？戳记呢？在附加费集邮中，预印凭证和戳记的地位一样吗？

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