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liyunxiao

对一件封的分析

2008-8-13 16:33

<br/><br/><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">最近购得一绍兴寄北京的红条封，从寄件人在背面书写的封寄日期可知，此封在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">1902</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">年</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; 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mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">日交寄，贴</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">1</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">分邮资，销“绍兴邮政局”碑形戳，</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">11</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; 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mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">11</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">21</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">日中转上海，到达戳为</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">11</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">26</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">日北京椭圆戳。封背另盖有红色“十九交局”戳。粗看此封，绍兴碑形戳，外埠</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">1</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">分邮资封，邮路清晰，文字书写工整，品相较好，除此以外，似无其他亮点。然对其细加分析，益觉有味。现将个人的分析过程陆续写出，其中不可避免的加入个人的推想，与各位共同探讨。</span>

liyunxiao

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'">先从背面红色的“十九交局”戳说起。清代的邮政信柜（或代办邮务的商铺）所收之信件，依照</span><span lang="EN-US">1899</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'">年</span><span lang="EN-US">10</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'">月</span><span lang="EN-US">14</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'">日邮政通扎第</span><span lang="EN-US">27</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'">号，及</span><span lang="EN-US">1905</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'">年</span><span lang="EN-US">1</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'">月</span><span lang="EN-US">18</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'">日总办通传第</span><span lang="EN-US">33</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'">号之规定，其所贴票，须交其主管邮局用日戳盖销，其本身所用的信柜戳或号码戳，不准盖销邮票，只能盖在信封上，以表示邮件的来路。此类例子，如上海、杭州、宁波、北京等地，在清代封片中很多见。（资料引自张恺升《中国邮戳目录》）。因此，张恺升先生在其《戳目》中，将此类“某某交局”戳划为邮政信柜戳，盖在封上作为其收寄信件之记录。依《戳目》中的记载，此类“某某交局”戳的使用地点只见绍兴、百官、平湖（嘉兴）三地，都是浙江绍兴及其周边地区。</span></p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">翻看清代的邮戳目录，清代之邮政信柜戳，各地所用的戳式虽然多样，有碑形、圆形、有框、无框，但都有一共同特点：明确标出上级主管邮局或是本身的地名，且“邮政信柜”之意明了，没有一种是类似于此“某某交局”者。不说全国各地，即便绍兴、百官等地，也同样有各种信柜戳，和各地所使用者相同。既然绍兴、百官等地所使用的邮政信柜戳和各地所使用者相同，又怎么会在个别信柜使用完全不同类别且意思不明的戳式呢？因此，基本上可以排除此“十九交局”戳为邮政信柜戳之说。</span>

小马哥

没看文字说明,光看图.对杭州戳已经表示怀疑.

麦国培

欢迎，要慢慢欣赏和学习。

卢长春

<p>欢迎李先生继续分析。我等着听呢。此封好象在哪见过。</p>

全方位

可惜了一封民信局好封<br/>

liyunxiao

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>小马哥</i>在2008-8-13 17:06:44的发言：</b><br/>没看文字说明,光看图.对杭州戳已经表示怀疑. </div>
<p>明日将杭州戳扫描了传上来大家讨论。</p>

卢长春

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>liyunxiao</i>在2008-8-13 21:33:53的发言：</b><br/>
<p>明日将杭州戳扫描了传上来大家讨论。</p></div>
<p>期待！</p>

liyunxiao

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>全方位</i>在2008-8-13 21:31:33的发言：</b><br/>可惜了一封民信局好封<br/></div>
<p>确实是民信局封，系民信局转邮局寄递。个人认为封没有问题。</p>

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-8-13 21:43:46编辑过]

liuyuan

对了，李兄，论坛的邮戳版面的图标恰好是绍兴的碑戳，随小，可供您比对

coil_dragon

几个戳都没什么问题,杭州小圆戳也不是什么罕品,没必要造假.<br/>想听李友后面的故事...

liyunxiao

<p>那就再贴一段。不过虽已整个分析过，但今日也就写了这么多，再下面的要明天继续写。<br/><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 会否是寄件人所盖，和邮政无关？这种“交局”戳在绍兴、百官、平湖三地的信件上都有出现过，且目前所见到的有“十九交局”、“廿五交局”、“廿七交局”等，可证其非寄件人自盖，且也可判断应该和邮政是有关的。对于此“交局”戳，到此的判断有：和邮政有关，又非信柜戳。<br/><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New="New"  Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 再来看信封正面寄件人所书写之文字。“<span style="COLOR: red">内函外附</span>洋铁筒壹个小篓子两个<span style="COLOR: red">敬烦邮宝局</span>寄京都……”，措辞为典型的民信局封的书写格式。“外附洋铁筒壹个小篓子两个”也是典型的民信局的操作方式，当然这“洋铁筒和小篓子”如果在大清邮局是只能另打包裹寄递了。</span><br/></span></p>

卢长春

明天接着听后续的。

liyunxiao

先说明一下，我可不是吊胃口啊，我是真没写好。[em52][em52]

卢长春

QUOTE:

以下是引用liyunxiao在2008-8-13 22:31:13的发言：
先说明一下，我可不是吊胃口啊，我是真没写好。

似乎没人说吊胃口吧。慢慢写，不急。明天接着听。

麦国培

每一个戳放大发上来最好！

畅哥

学习了，期待下文！

风青

这个绍兴戳和清代邮戳志的不一样, 难道有2种戳式?不是1903年邮资才改为1分吗?期待解答

卢长春

欢迎各位继续探讨交流。

麦国培

希望加强研究。